Endless scroll creep of smartphone apps really killed the smartphone for me.

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Endless scroll creep of smartphone apps really killed the smartphone for me.

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Remember when we had things like pagination, and screensavers? I keep thinking that maybe if our phones played Mystify on “idle”, instead of showing notifications coaxing us to traipse into endlessly scrolling apps, people wouldn’t be so glued to and stressed by their smartphones.

Every single media platform is vying for your attention now. Whether it’s YouTube, Reddit, or even a news website (I scroll to the end of my current article and I’m suddenly in a different article?!) they want to keep you stuck on their platform for as long as humanly possible. I’m actually surprised that Amazon doesn’t keep you in a scrolling hamster wheel—yet. But other shopping apps like Temu definitely do.

Has anyone else here been forced to drop a media platform, that you formerly used responsibly on Mobile, because of the endless scrolling design that’s so pervasive now? YouTube is the last one to drive me crazy (the others I’ve uninstalled long ago already, ha), and also the last straw.

As infuriatingly boring the depression rectangle hardware is, I actually can’t blame it for nearly as much pain as the software being designed for it.
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It's possible to get rid of many of the social media apps that run like this, but I think it would be hard for me to find an in-between. Either I am glued to a service or I am not really using it at all. If you run apps through a browser sometimes the experience is more limited than the native app, and that friction can be enough to keep scrolling at bay. Just an idea.
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Ah! Well, for me, it’s actually no problem to remove all SNS apps (and I suppose, refrain from reading news websites now, since they endlessly scroll…) from my phone—and I don’t even browse those on a Mobile browser. I don’t have a problem with going to those platforms only very occasionally in a homebound, desktop environment. I love Facebook Groups, but I don’t need to see, exactly, what is going on in the artisan cheesemaking group at this very moment! I can do that when I get home… And honestly, if I don’t? That’s fine, too. I can just explore those sorts of things when I actually want to look for new cheesemaking ideas, and so on. There are many things I like to do outside of work that don’t involve SNS, and I’d like to keep it that way.

Maybe it was a mistake to make the Internet always accessible from your pocket, even on the toilet. I just wish I could read a single news article without being bombarded, or just play one YouTube video (in my case, typically recordings of live performances, or someone’s mix) without YouTube immediately recommending me something else before the video has even started. I remember when Gawker Media (back when I read it…!) first abandoned their paginated layout for an endlessly scrolling one. There was an outcry in the readerbase, because at the time, everyone was reading these sites on their desktops. Ironically it seems to be a case of updating their site design far too early, before the ubiquity of smartphones. Now almost every single platform is designed to be endless, with zero discrete breaks.
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I face a lot of the same issues, something that perpetuates it is also definitely how so many others stick to the top popular few social media apps. The one thing I’ve had to do is turn notifications off and set things up to remind myself of how much time I’m spending there so that I don’t endlessly scroll!
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JINSBEK wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:45 am Has anyone else here been forced to drop a media platform, that you formerly used responsibly on Mobile, because of the endless scrolling design that’s so pervasive now? YouTube is the last one to drive me crazy (the others I’ve uninstalled long ago already, ha), and also the last straw.
Not on mobile, but instead on the computer. Youtube was a bad adiction, esspecially to watch while eating. But I've been Youtube free for the past week. Now I check my email, check Discord, and forum browse the last hour of the day before going to bed. Not ideal, but better than what I used to be. No TV either.
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Boom! wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 6:22 pm I face a lot of the same issues, something that perpetuates it is also definitely how so many others stick to the top popular few social media apps. The one thing I’ve had to do is turn notifications off and set things up to remind myself of how much time I’m spending there so that I don’t endlessly scroll!
Ah, right? Most of my favourite artists are still on Twitter. Many are starting to make the move to Bluesky, but I’ve no interest in a Twitter-replacement at this moment. Since so few people keep up personal websites anymore (or are active on DeviantArt, and I don't blame them), and Twitter’s effectively killed all third-party power apps, it’s become almost impossible for me to keep up with my favourite artists anymore. And no I do not want to scroll through Instagram for this, either. I’ve ended up basically just quitting browsing Twitter entirely, and content myself with their artworks I’ve obsessively downloaded. This bubble is a little sad, but it’s quiet, and not sucking all of my own creative energy anymore.
Felid131 wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 2:43 amNot on mobile, but instead on the computer. Youtube was a bad adiction, esspecially to watch while eating. But I've been Youtube free for the past week. Now I check my email, check Discord, and forum browse the last hour of the day before going to bed. Not ideal, but better than what I used to be. No TV either.
I think YouTube has steadily gotten worse, yeah. The very old school YouTube prioritised the video you were watching, video responses (is that even a thing anymore?), and then text comments. Later iterations showed Related Videos to the side, but it was a hideable list so that you weren’t tempted to endlessly scroll. When they first rolled out Autoplay, I thought it was cancer and was not very happy to have to disable it on all devices.
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Luckily Social Medias like Twitter and Facebook never really griped me, which results in me only having one Social Media that I check once a Month, which is Mastodon that doesn't have such an Addictive Feed.

But with YouTube I struggle a lot, it did help tho to remove it from my Phone and use LibRedirect to redirect me to Invidous on the Browser, that prevents me to succumb to autoplay at least.
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Crazyroostereye wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 6:07 pm But with YouTube I struggle a lot, it did help tho to remove it from my Phone and use LibRedirect to redirect me to Invidous on the Browser, that prevents me to succumb to autoplay at least.
On desktop I downloaded the extension DF YouTube so I don't see the recommendations and removes all the videos on the homepage. It's been immensely helpful from keeping from falling down an endless rabbit hole of youtube videos. :D
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I have had to completely block Youtube on my laptop. It has been that way for the past few days, and I never thought I would be feeling withdrawal issues, but I am. It is freaking crazy. I never grew up with an iPad since they weren't invented yet, but I have become an iPad adult and it is not fun.

So yeah, no more videos for me for a while. I did the same with reddit and I have been checking discord and here more than is healthy. I think I need a no tech detox.
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Ever since reddit killed 3rd party apps for their site my time on there has drastically gone down. I absolutely refuse to use their awful app with their endless scroll and unnecessary features that's useless to me. I only use it on desktop with old reddit and res. It's the only way I tolerate it now. I also gave up the youtube app for similar reasons and only use it in browser. It's too easy to get sucked in otherwise.

Just noticed this is the 2nd time I've responded to this thread without realizing. lol
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